Commons:Village pump/Archive/2025/11

Sourcing to Amgueddfa Cymru Images

Hi, What is the best way to source images from https://images.museumwales.ac.uk/, i.e. File:Underground roadway at Blaenserchan Colliery, 72529.jpg? I can't see a short URL, but long one like [1]. From the image ID, one can create URL like [2], but this doesn't link directly to the image page above. Shouldn't we have a template with the image ID as parameter? Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

@Yann: Does this form of URL work? https://images.museumwales.ac.uk/view-item?i=72529 And yeah, I think a source template would be great! (There doesn't seem to be one in Category:Source templates related to the United Kingdom.) Sam Wilson 11:17, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Yes, great! Thanks a lot. Yann (talk) 12:28, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

As {{Amgueddfa Cymru Images}} was created now, this seems solved. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

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Name of photographer

Anyone want to try and decipher this photographer's name and see if we have a Wikidata entry for them? I don't think my first try was accurate. File:Ruth Elise Bråten (1893-1976) and possibly her mother, Elisabeth Ruuth (1858-1945).jpg RAN (talk) 18:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Why do you think that your attribution is wrong? The source apparently attributes it and 802 other photographs to E. Larsson (Skönvik). -- Asclepias (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

E. Larsson. --Rosenzweig τ 18:42, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

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I want to remove my comment on this deletion request, am I allowed to do it

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Israeli_Flag_except_star_is_replaced_With_Poop.jpg I wanna remove my comment to not be associated with it Rsidkdjsjs (talk) 00:38, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

I could redact the name and hide your name from the history. Abzeronow (talk) 02:18, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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Cat-a-lot not showing in "Media search"

A few hours ago, the Cat-a-lot gadget stopped appearing in "Media Search," but it works in "Special:Search" and other situations. Is anyone else having the same problem? Thanks.

OK, it is working normal again, sorry and thank--JotaCartas (talk) 10:18, 6 November 2025 (UTC)s

Should have been asked Commons:Village pump/Technical. This is the wrong place. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:04, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands

Hi there, I noticed File:Flag of Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg got deleted, with rationale a broken redirect. When trying to fix this on an article where this was used, I found File:Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.png which has the description "English: Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg". Something messed up has happened here, my guess is that a few people had good intentions and now many wikis have broken links. (The file is a png, not a svg, and there was a redirect that pointed the svg filename to the png file. The redirect got removed, and now there's an issue. Can someone look into this? Milliped (talk) 11:27, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Hang on a minute. The SVG was deleted for copyright reasons; see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg. Surely those reasons apply to the raster versions as well? Omphalographer (talk) 19:09, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

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Is this image public domain?

I believe it to be PD, because it was made by AI and published by the White House (although I can’t find the link). Does anyone want to migrate it to commons? https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115158096026629509 Victorgrigas (talk) 13:35, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Meh. Geoffroi 00:54, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't think it is clear that this is PD. The image was posted by Donald Trump, not the White House, and there are no indications that this is AI-generated. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

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Category for WP bugs

I wanted to show an irritating bug in a screenshot, and I couldn't find an appropriate category for it, in the drop-down, then in the list of cats beginning with "Wikipedia...". It's self-evident I suppose, that an illustration of a bug speaks clearer than an awkward description. "Wikipedia [e.g.: – screenshots of bugs]" would be the most promising, intuitively most obvious beginning of a name for this sort of internal problems. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:24, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Added Category:Screenshots of Wikipedia bugs. Bidgee (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

yeah, it's the name, there is no possible auto-complete, if you expect "Wikipedia" would be the leading word in the category title (since there have to be other internal cats that document internal affairs and may be affiliated to screenshots of WP [and] bugs) – and I think I searched for "Screenshots", too. But, ok, I am not sure, so anyway, thank you very much for the immediate response. I hope, not to forget again. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

I searched for "Screenshots of" and waited, the proposals in the dropdown did show "Wolfram Alpha", but no WP or WC:

File:WC Category Search for "Screenshot" with dropdown of proposals (20251107 Firefox).jpg

Even with "Screenshots of W" it took some time to appear amidst other auto-completes. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:53, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

That's something on your end – on mine, the autocomplete immediately appears. You could ask about it at Commons:Village pump/Technical. Would be best to check whether videos load slow (see the thread #Videos loading slow? there). Moreover, in 2014 already a redirect from Category:Wikipedia bugs screenshots was created so entering Wikipedia or Wikipedia bug should autocomplete to the correct cat. If the problem persists, please create a new thread or move this thread to VP/T. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:32, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

When entering "cat:Wikipedia bug" or "cat:Screenshots of Wikipedia" in the top search instead of the HotCat category box, it also autocompletes to the correct cat. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:35, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, for your advice. MenkinAlRire (talk) 11:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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Is there a Commons category for “Victim of a miscarriage of justice”?

On the German Wikipedia there is the category Opfer eines Justizirrtums. In English: “Victim of a miscarriage of justice”, Dutch: “Slachtoffer van een gerechtelijke dwaling”. I tried to find a category in Commons, but I could not. Does such a category exist? Wouter (talk) 16:51, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

@Wouterhagens Perhaps Category:Wrongfully convicted people? Tvpuppy (talk) 17:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

That category was not linked with Category:People wrongfully convicted of a crime (Q9573520). Fixed. A broader category doesn't seem to exist (yet) but it could be created (went through the English Wikipedia categories to check). Prototyperspective (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Broader Category:Victims of Justice does exist though. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

(Renamed and moved to Category:Victims of injustice) --ReneeWrites (talk) 10:28, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

it's not commons category's job to document this piece of info. RoyZuo (talk) 11:27, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion but this is also about making given people files/categories findable and a very reasonable category to have (albeit there probably is an issue with its state of completion). One can simply add the categories the corresponding Wikipedia category has. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:46, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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Question about categorization

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I have a question about COM:OVERCAT and how it applies to categories for Quality, Valued, or Featured images. Since these are hidden categories, are they considered a separate kind of category from mainspace ones? Specifically, if a quality image belongs to category X, can it be included in both "X" and "Quality images of X", or should it only be placed in "Quality images of X"? ReneeWrites (talk) 08:30, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

A problem of the overcat policy is that when files are located in one subcategory of a category but also belong into a or multiple other subcategories, they're gone from the category. For example, if people categorize files by say year but the files are then missing in the by subject subcategories. I think the same issue exists here – afaik so far no exceptions are made and when categorizing one needs to go through many or all subcategories, e.g. using the deepcategory search operator. Here, one could for example use deepcategory on the quality images of X category and -deepcategory for the subcategory the file should also be located in to find files still awaiting categorization into the latter subcategory branch. Furthermore, maybe these categories shouldn't be hidden to begin with. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Personally, I'd place them in both categories, exactly because one is hidden. Being hidden is one of the reasons mentioned for why user categories are exempted from this rule, so I'd think the same applies to other hidden categories by that analogy. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:33, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Hidden categories are considered non-topical; OVERCAT with topical categories does not apply. - Jmabel ! talk 03:26, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, that's what I wanted to know :) ReneeWrites (talk) 09:49, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

COM:DIGNITY and attack ads

Is it okay to host media that goes against COM:DIGNITY if the media is an w:attack ad made by a political opponent as part of their political campaign? Trade (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

This totally depends on the individual case. A campaign against Trump is likely okay, the same against the mayor of a small town is not. GPSLeo (talk) 14:41, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

As that guidance says, you need to weigh up the educational merit of retaining the image, so it is impossible to make an ironclad ruling on a mere hypothetical situation. The issue will also be complicated if the subject is a living person. We host a large amount of historical propaganda that would struggle to pass COM:DIGNITY if made today. From Hill To Shore (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to take a look at Category:Attack ads and tell me if it passes Trade (talk) 15:09, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

In this case, I'd say the educational use of an example of what a flailing campaign like Andrew Cuomo's would use against a political opponent expected to win would outweigh COM:DIGNITY issue from Mamdani's side but I am biased towards Mamdami. I'd certainly welcome other points of view on that though. Abzeronow (talk) 00:19, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Acceptable source?

I want to know if the Supreme Court of India website is considered an acceptable source for free-use?

I am asking because before I have seen Indian office-holders' pics added to Commons from other similar government websites. Thanks! Kingsacrificer (talk) 18:21, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

If you are looking for copyright expertise, you are more likely to get a good answer at COM:VP/C.

Also, when referring to a website, it is very helpful to provide an URL. - Jmabel ! talk 06:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm so sorry. I thought I had included the URL in the message. Here it is.

https://www.sci.gov.in/judge/justice-deepak-verma/

I'll also post it on COM:VP/C. Thanks! Kingsacrificer (talk) 06:32, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

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